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Gregslot · Jun 16, 2007, 11:19 AM // 11:19

The only problem i see at these skills is the mesmer sunspear skill. You cant use it at heroes, and you cant expect for any player to interrupt skills in hard mode, so it is way too hard to use... compared to the other it is useless
Interrputing is specially hard in pve, considering the number of enemies =)

Kakumei · Jun 16, 2007, 11:22 AM // 11:22

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Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

Someone said that warriors deal damage?

Has said someone actually played a warrior in a high level area?

As my guild mate told me yesterday (we play deep together with him as tank), warriors are good for one thing, standing in a doorway. That is, if there's a monk healing him. So I guess that's what warriors are good at nowadays... standing in half a doorway.

I'm sorry your friend is terrible at playing a warrior, but they do quite a bit of damage when used properly.

Monk Gsb · Jun 16, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25

stop QQing and get on with it ?

Water Angel · Jun 16, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25

if people dun even put points in fc they cant really hope interupt....

Pwny Ride · Jun 16, 2007, 11:30 AM // 11:30

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

if people dun even put points in fc they cant really hope interupt....

Yea totally. Even if the interrupt skills cast in 1/4 of a second.

wtf?

Friday · Jun 16, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55

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Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

Interesting. When Eles get buffed, PvE doesn't need balance.

When necros get nerfed, PvE needs balance.

Great.

QFT

just Q. F. T.

Fight well
Friday

Water Angel · Jun 16, 2007, 11:56 AM // 11:56

yes, 0,25 sec can be bring down....so ya totally.

Stealthc · Jun 16, 2007, 12:14 PM // 12:14

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

yeah, there's something screwy with monster energy regen...
Which is why I laughed at Ether Nightmare.
Ohhhhhh, a PVE only energy degen skill?
I think the energy degen part is just for a secondary effect and they couldn't think of anything useful.

It's AoE health degeneration.

Miral · Jun 16, 2007, 12:29 PM // 12:29

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Originally Posted by Railin

You want balance against monsters? If so, all missions should only have 8 monsters so it's 8v8.

lol
actually it would be kinda neat if monsters followed same rules as players and came in teams of 8, then have like 20+ teams within larger missions...

Miral · Jun 16, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34

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Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

Interesting. When Eles get buffed, PvE doesn't need balance.

When necros get nerfed, PvE needs balance.

Great.

lol... too true

damn necro haters...

The Legg · Jun 16, 2007, 12:35 PM // 12:35

wow, i honestly cant believe how short sighted the OP is. PVE needs these new skills to help re-invigorate it. Anet have already nerfed one of the SS skills please dont go asking for more nerfs less than 24 hours from skill release.
Dont you want to actually play the game rather than just whining on these forums all day long?
If its balance you want go play PVP.

Miral · Jun 16, 2007, 12:51 PM // 12:51

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Originally Posted by The Legg

wow, i honestly cant believe how short sighted the OP is. PVE needs these new skills to help re-invigorate it. Anet have already nerfed one of the SS skills please dont go asking for more nerfs less than 24 hours from skill release.
Dont you want to actually play the game rather than just whining on these forums all day long?
If its balance you want go play PVP.

im not really sure why they nerfed the one they did how they did... its basically weaker than bitter chill now...

fenix · Jun 16, 2007, 12:55 PM // 12:55

LOL

This update makes me warm inside. It means that I can do PvE even faster than before, and that is fine by me.

Water Angel · Jun 16, 2007, 01:31 PM // 13:31

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Originally Posted by The Legg

wow, i honestly cant believe how short sighted the OP is. PVE needs these new skills to help re-invigorate it. Anet have already nerfed one of the SS skills please dont go asking for more nerfs less than 24 hours from skill release.
Dont you want to actually play the game rather than just whining on these forums all day long?
If its balance you want go play PVP.

right.better be a pve nab liek you who's only happy cause game even more lame and easy it already was.
if for you revigorate = make it easier and more boring than gg.
pve is already full of shiet, cus fukin easy.right lets make it even easier and purpose less, buffing more skills of all leeerooyy jenkiinnsss eles, for who dmg make it all and go on with 8 atack skills no using brain.
you can re vigorate game adding new skills but no making by the same some classes uber powered.
it's u the short sighted if of all my post, you only understood i moan for new skills....sighs.

explanation for you slow mind : it's not about new skills it's about giving much more advantage to a specific class than to others, making others unwanted or less used.

Jaythen Tyradel · Jun 16, 2007, 01:31 PM // 13:31

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

16 +2 (elemental power glyph) + 2 (elemental lord skill) +1 egg +1 bless +1 item + 25% dmg from sunspear skill...

If someone wants to go through all that trouble to do that specific setup, and has enough money to keep buying eggs to keep that going, always remembers to get blessing if it is available, has a decent +1 item...good for them..
otherwise, you are looking at an extreme setup that a small percentage of the population might use.

Water Angel · Jun 16, 2007, 01:38 PM // 13:38

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Originally Posted by Jaythen Tyradel

If someone wants to go through all that trouble to do that specific setup, and has enough money to keep buying eggs to keep that going, always remembers to get blessing if it is available, has a decent +1 item...good for them..
otherwise, you are looking at an extreme setup that a small percentage of the population might use.

that's why under i prescised most of time it stop at 20-21, and the dmg i quoted is from skill at 20.( 160 ms, 445 sh, etc).what no need eggs, item or shrine.

119 before 160 now 250 before 445 now etc etc..dmg deal by fire ele for some skills multiplied by 2....compare that to other classes new skills and updates..not really same amplitude.

Draco Angelus · Jun 16, 2007, 01:45 PM // 13:45

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Originally Posted by Jaythen Tyradel

If someone wants to go through all that trouble to do that specific setup, and has enough money to keep buying eggs to keep that going, always remembers to get blessing if it is available, has a decent +1 item...good for them..
otherwise, you are looking at an extreme setup that a small percentage of the population might use.

I'll laugh when I see this, since you can't raise your atts above 20 (except for the +1 item, so 21 is the most you can get)

Shadis · Jun 16, 2007, 01:58 PM // 13:58

When people talk of PvE Balance, they're talking about making all the classes equally useful. The fact that these skills really do nothing to promote that sends a bad signal for the 100 PvE Only Skills on the way for Eye of the North.

Why even label them as a "class" skill since anyone can use them without any penalty?

Moloch Vein · Jun 16, 2007, 02:30 PM // 14:30

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Originally Posted by Kakumei

I'm sorry your friend is terrible at playing a warrior, but they do quite a bit of damage when used properly.

Alright, let us go there.

How much damage does the W/A build for Hard Mode Deep do? For that matter, how much damage do the W/E builds for Domain of Anguish do? Please cite the builds and name specifics, I won't do it for you.

Can you tell me, what is the real function of a tank in a high level pve mission?

Oh, and stop insulting people when you clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

Hong Kong Evil · Jun 16, 2007, 02:53 PM // 14:53

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

king, now in pve you think people will want carry somethign else than eles? monk + a tank (and yet..) + eles...its all gonna be liek that..

who will need ss or mm or mesmer or rangers now with uber buffed eles..thats the point.half morons will only be like need ele only + monk...

the buff given to eles totally eclips other professions.like said above its about professions not monsters.

baz : yes my main is ele too.just i feel like if now if wan play somethign else than monk or ele geta team willl be even worse..

E/P
E/P
E/W
E/W
E/Rt
E/Me
Mo
Mo

its good enough to make an invincible team